The Sun’s interview with Michael Lerner

26 08 2012

I don’t usually post between radio shows, but a blog post seems like the easiest way to propagate this extensive (nearly 900 word) excerpt  from a much longer interview with Michael Lerner, founder of Tikkun, in the new issue of The Sun.  It’s not available online, and probably won’t be for quite some time.  Go buy it.  It’s a magazine worth supporting!  I may turn this into part of the September radio show, which will air  Sept. 9, or it may remain a stand-alone.  Lerner’s remarks are remarkably sensible, at least to me, and I want to make sure his ideas resonate with as many people as possible–although I do think he’s a bit too easy on President Obama.  On the other hand, his discussion of the Israel-Palestine debacle is one of the most nuanced, deeply contextualized, points of view I’ve ever encountered on the subject–and very hard to cut a few good paragraphs out of for this “Readers’ Digest edition.”

Leviton: So, the realists are actually blind to what’s happening, and you, a utopian dreamer, have a more “realistic” grasp on the situation?

Lerner: Realism has been defined by the powerful and the media they control to mean any policy that does not significantly challenge the current distribution of power and wealth. So I say, “Don’t be realistic.” The God revealed to the Jewish people is a God that makes it possible to overcome systems of power and domination, starting with the liberation of the Israelites from slavery in Egypt. All people, who are created in God’s image, can aspire to transcend the constant voices from outside and from inside our own heads that insist we accommodate ourselves to the existing reality rather than change it.


Why are we totally insensitive to the needs of the vast majority of people on the planet/ Is it because of American character? I say no. The British would do the same thing, and did when they were the largest colonial power. So would the French, the Dutch, the Turks. And if the Arab countries or the Chinese become the dominant world economic force in the future, they will do the same. I don’t believe it’s character. I believe it is the result of a global economic and political system that advances the interests of the few at the expense of the many. We need to democratize that global system rather than criticize our fellow Americans.

….(Our educators) have been indoctrinated to think it’s inappropriate in public education to talk about anything that can’t be verified or measured. Because you can’t measure love, kindness, and generosity, they have no place. We can deal only with the facts, which are devoid of any spiritual or ethical content.

But this view, which says the only things that count are those that can be verified through observation and measurement, itself cannot be verified by empirical observation! In other words, it’s a religious view, the religion of capitalism, because money can always be counted. That view cannot, by its own criteria, defend itself. There are no empirical observations that support the idea that empirical observations are the only path to understanding what is real. These are religious beliefs, but they are so widespread that almost everyone sees them simply as “reality” or “common sense.” And so this religion gets taught in our schools and universities as though it were a value-free truth.


I don’t fault Obama for not winning votes in Congress. What I fault him for is not using his bully pulpit to teach Americans why it is not OK for the rich to benefit at the expense of everyone else; why a single-payer plan is far better health care than what we have now; ; how badly life on earth is threatened by production geared toward the competitive marketplace rather than toward the need of planetary survival; why it is irrational to criminalize marijuana; why wars are not the way to achieve world peace. And if you think that’s utterly unrealistic, then he could at least have told us what he was up against—the forces pushing him toward war and the 1 percent’s domination of the rest of us—and also what he thought the country really needed. When he decided not to prosecute anyone for the war crimes under the Bush administration, he could have explained that, even though they were war criminals by any rational definition, he believed this country would be torn apart by such a trial. And when he authorized money to bail out corporations, he could have explained that we need a national bank, but the U.S. Isn’t ready for that sort of transformation of our capitalist system. In other words, he could have spoken the truth. His failure to do that is what allowed so many people to think that nobody in Washington is telling us what’s really happening.

….my love for Israel has manifested in my vocal criticism of Israeli policies that defy the tradition of Jewish ethics and Torah commands—particularly, “Thou shalt love the stranger.”….

The prophets’ clear message (is) that those who do not care for the poor and the oppressed are defiling God’s name. That message, though ceremoniously repeated in our synagogues, is systematically ignored by large sections of the synagogue-going community when it comes to the Palestinian people; or to undocumented immigrants; or to the 12 million children under the age of five who, according to UN statistics, die each year around the globe for lack of adequate food and health care, a direct product of the system of global selfishness we call “capitalism.” Moral insensitivity is a prerequisite for giving blind support to Israel’s oppressive policies, and increasingly it carries over to Jewish responses to the suffering of others.

…Step two is overcoming the domination world view and instead establishing caring and kindness as the path to security. And to do this you have to defeat the idea that anybody who believes in generosity is a fool….that’s more likely to come from a movement that starts in the West than one that starts in the Middle east. If we can change the dominant discourse in Western societies, it will have a tremendous impact on the peace movement in Israel and Palestine.



3 responses

26 08 2012
Arnold Joseph White

Re: ~“everyone’s”~ ~“attitude”~ about ~“everything”~

~”Love”~ is ~”simple”~ concern for ~”everything”~ and ~”everyone”~.

Because I have pasted this open~letter into this email, much of the text and the ~”alignment”~ of the text will be off. But at my website my ~”book”~ is in its ~”correct format”~.

It is my ~ “aligned” ~ ~“opinion”~ what ~“this”~ ~“is”~ I have been ~“given”~ has ~“the power”~ to ~“CHANGE”~ the world!
What could/would it ~“do”~ to ~“everyone’s”~ ~“attitude”~ about ~“everything”~ to see ~“evidence”~ of ~“proof”~ of ~“God is love.”~ within the ~“structure”~ of the ~“text”~ of my ~“book”~!?!
~“Feeling”~ ~“led”~ almost ~“compelled”~ to ~“write”~ my ~“book”~ ~”DIVINE 9/11 INTERVENTION”~ (which you can read and download for free at ) like ~“this”~ I ~“discovered”~ a ~“77”~ ~“alignment”~ of ~“seven…”~’s (MY DOB IS 7/7/48!) ~“hidden”~ in the book of ~“Revelation”~! Do you think ~“this”~ ~“physical evidence”~ of ~“Spiritual Intelligence”~ (i.e.~“God”~) might cause more of ~“us”~ to sit up and take notice of what it ~“truly”~ means to ~“Love thy neighbour as thyself.”~! ~“Coincidence is God’s way of remaining anonymous.”~ Albert Einstein. Also, at watch “The Curtain is Moving Again”. Here is the link: ~”Whoever”~ or ~”Whatever”~ is ~”moving”~ my curtain. It ain’t me!
“There can really be no peace without justice.
There can be no justice without truth.
And there can be no truth,
unless someone rises up to tell you the truth.”
“In the long history of the world, only a few generations have been granted the role of defending freedom in its hour of maximum danger. I do not shrink from this responsibility. I welcome it.”
– John F. Kennedy, Inaugural Address Jan. 20, 1961

Our goal is to expose the Problem Reaction Solution paradigm, and expose the Bilderbergs, the CFR, WHO, WTO, the PNAC, and the rest of the Globalist Fascists and their New World Order. Globalism is nothing more than a Global Feudal system, where there is no middle class, just the Elite, and us (the Human Resources).
However, we are about to face the Greatest realization in the history of the Evolution: Consciousness and the Ethics are Infinite. Past, Present, and the Future are all Now. We are about to Leap in our Evolution, but we are in a grave danger of allowing a few Elites to gain control over us, to turn us into feudal slaves.
Lets do the right thing, lets allow ourselves to do be all that we can be, by exposing the evil, spreading the truth, so that we can take the Humanity, and not just the ruling elite, to the next level.
I wrote this:
I believe there are very wealthy and very powerful and VERY misguided people on this planet, who are seriously considering using the minimum, number of nuclear devices necessary, to instigate a nuclear winter on this planet, in order to “down size” the earth’s “surplus” population to a more “efficient” number. ~“fear not”~? YES!!! ~“God is!”~ ~“Love!”~ Watch the “ENDGAME” by Alex Jones. Google “The Georgia Guidestones” Elberton, GA Hwy.
~ “77” ~!
“the message of 911”
“There is a conspiracy; and the better world they want is a better one for themselves; you have no part in it, unless you happen to be one of ‘them’. Killing thousands in a hoaxed terrorist attack is a prelude to what you can expect at their hands; violence and falsehoods.”
~“LOVE!”~ ~“GOD IS!”~ ~“LOVE!”~
1 Timothy 6:((9-11)) King James
9But they that will be rich fall into temptation and a snare, and into many foolish and hurtful lusts, which drown men in destruction and perdition.
10For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows.
11But thou, O man of God, flee these things; and follow after righteousness, godliness, faith, love, patience, meekness.
1 Corinthians 13:13 New King James
13And now abide faith, hope, love, these three; but the greatest of these is love.


I have been ~“approached”~ by ~“God”~ in a ~“manner”~ similar to that of: CAROLINE COTTOM, (Read her book. “Love Changes Things – Even in the World of Politics”) Edgar Cayce, Jean Dixon, William (We look like twins, and my ~“book”~ is ~”the reason”~ why!) Marrion Branham, Joseph Smith, Saint Bernadette, Emanuel Swedenborg, Nostradamus, Joan of Arc, John the Baptist, Ezekiel, Hosea, Amos and Moses! My ~“experiences”~ are slightly similar to those of the fictional character Jerry Landers played by John Denver in the 19~“77”~ movie ~ “Oh God!” ~ staring George Burns. Through a “very long” series of ~“dreams”~ ~“visions”~ ~“signs and wonders”~ which included having ~“Ezekiel 33”~ “physically” given to me to read, I “finally” realized that through ~“these things”~ I had/have been ~“appointed”~ by ~“God”~ to be and to ~“speak”~ as ~“thee a watchman”~ of verse ~“7”~. Call me! ~“God”~ has!
~ “Love is the answer.” ~ ~“God is love.”~
Arnold Joseph White ~”a white”~
Did you know that ~”a white”~ is in the King James Bible ~”7″~ times?
~ “Coincidence is God’s way of remaining anonymous.” ~ Albert Einstein
~ “God does not call the qualified, He qualifies the called.” ~ Call me! ~“God”~ has!

3 09 2012

Arnold, if I didn’t know you I would never have posted this. It’s long, meandering, and only tangentally related to the post. I found it in my spam folder, and I couldn’t see calling it spam, but you would do well to learn how to express yourself more concisely!

9 09 2012

[…] another lifetime, and we’re still in this one.  What is to be done?  Once again I will quote Michael Lerner: “(We need to overcome) the domination world view and instead (establish) […]

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